July 29, 2025
Nobody Grows Up Thinking This Will Happen to Them with Ali Allred (Part 1/2) I Ep. 79
Nobody grows up thinking they'll become a human trafficking survivor. For Ali Allred, life began with childhood instability that created the first cracks in her foundation. Sexual assault at age three and eventual substance abuse as a teenager that formed a perfect storm of vulnerability that traffickers would later exploit. Ali's raw, unflinching account reveals how trafficking often begins not with kidnapping, but through calculated manipulation. What followed was a nightmare of control, v...
Nobody grows up thinking they'll become a human trafficking survivor. For Ali Allred, life began with childhood instability that created the first cracks in her foundation. Sexual assault at age three and eventual substance abuse as a teenager that formed a perfect storm of vulnerability that traffickers would later exploit.
Ali's raw, unflinching account reveals how trafficking often begins not with kidnapping, but through calculated manipulation. What followed was a nightmare of control, violence, and exploitation that spanned years and multiple traffickers. Making up to $10,000 daily while being allowed only $5 for herself, Ali experienced firsthand how thoroughly traffickers can strip away autonomy and identity.
The path to freedom proved treacherous. Multiple escape attempts, psychiatric hospitalizations, substance relapses, and system failures marked her journey. When she finally broke free, she faced the overwhelming challenge of rebuilding from scratch—without even basic identification documents. Yet through this impossible struggle, Ali discovered her purpose. "I never thought I would be a human trafficking, kidnapping, sexual assault or domestic violence survivor," she says. "It just happened and I have to live with it. At the end of the day, I want to take my pain and turn it not only into power but purpose."
Join us for this powerful conversation about survival against impossible odds. Ali's story isn't just about the horrific reality of trafficking—it's about reclaiming voice, agency, and meaning after unimaginable trauma. As she reminds us, "We've survived 100% of our worst days." If you or someone you know is struggling with exploitation or trafficking, resources are available. You are not alone.
Ali's links:
https://www.1in3podcast.com/guests/ali-allred/
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Cover art by Laura Swift Dahlke
Music by Tim Crowe
00:00 - Allie's Early Life Struggles
08:59 - First Exploitation and Assault
15:58 - Substance Abuse and Declining Health
23:19 - Falling Into the Trafficking Trap
29:44 - Controlled by a Pimp
37:15 - Escape and the Road to Recovery
45:00 - Finding Purpose Through Pain
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Hi, allie, I am super excited for you to come on today.
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You have an incredible, crazy story to tell and a lot of information regarding your advocacy as well, so we're going to break this up into two episodes.
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Episode one is your story.
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Episode two we'll talk about your advocacy, but I am so appreciative of you coming on and taking the time today to go over all of this information.
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Well, thank you so much for having me on today.
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It is an honor and a privilege.
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I really admire what you're doing.
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This podcast is incredible.
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Bringing awareness to the severity of these issues is imperative to making a change.
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And you know, for me personally, as Allie all read, I never grew up thinking these things would happen to me.
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Um, no one ever grows up thinking they're going to be a human trafficking, kidnapping, sexual assault and domestic violence survivor.
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You know, as a kid I wanted to be an actress.
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I wanted to be a singer.
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I wanted to be all the things that I thought you know were singer.
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I wanted to be all the things that I thought you know were goals in my life and special and rainbows and butterflies.
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You know what I mean.
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But unfortunately, you know, um, I was not dealt a great hand.
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Um, I was born to a pretty young mother.
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Um, she was only married to my father for about a year.
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Um got divorced and I lived in a pretty volatile home.
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You know, I had a lot of love, but there was a lot of inconsistency and there was a lot of fighting between my family.
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We primarily lived with my grandparents, since my mom was so young and she needed help with caretaking and she was pretty absent the first seven years of my life, not intentionally, just, you know she did the best she could and I, you know, think that all the time.
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You know, she was going to school she was doing whatever she could, but I was primarily in my grandparents' care and they got divorced after 48 years.
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So you can kind of imagine the volatility that happened there and my mom and my grandma just butt heads, so you know when they would get into fights.
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She would pick me up, we would move away to a friend's house until you know resources ran out or money ran out, and then we would come back home and it kind of just went like that.
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On top of that, when I turned three, I started getting sexually assaulted by my father and you know I remember doing my first kind of sane kit with my mom and she was digging through my private parts and I asked her what she was doing.
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I was probably like five or six, you know, maybe five at the time and she goes.
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You know I'm looking for worms and like at the time, like I just knew that was not right, and she put me with hypnosis, like I went under hypnosis.
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I went through the legal system.
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I did, you know, went with social workers, all sorts of stuff, and ultimately there was not enough evidence to hold him, so we just continued with life.
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My mom ended up getting remarried, uh, to my stepdad and, uh, he legally adopted me because, you know, my father obviously could care less about me and he gave up his rights to me.
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Um, you know he wasn't paying much child support so it didn't really matter to him.
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Uh and uh, you know, things were pretty good for a little bit in my life and you know, things were pretty good for a little bit in my life.
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You know, my dad had a construction company at the time.
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He was a builder, so we would move into spec homes and live there for a little bit and move around.
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So I moved around a lot, you know, during my life, and especially in my childhood and my adult life.
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But you know I didn't have a lot of stability.
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And my adult life, but you know I didn't have a lot of stability.
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I was really excited when my mom got pregnant with my first sibling that I had prayed for.
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I was very excited.
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But, you know, once my siblings started to be born, I kind of felt like it was their family and me and the dynamic really changed for me and I eventually, you know, turned to drugs and alcohol as a kid and I was about 16 when I started drinking and it was really affecting every aspect of my life.
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I eventually ended up, you know, being passed off to different family members, you know, because no one could keep custody of me.
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I went back to my grandparents' house Um, you know, they were.
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I remember, you know, taking a knife away from one of them and using it as a talking stick on the couch.
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Um, you know, it was just like now you talk, now you talk, now you talk, kind of thing.
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And it was just, it was.
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I was like 17 at the time.
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So my aunt in California was like no, this isn't happening.
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And swooped in and, you know, got custody of me.
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And, you know, two weeks later my uncle died of a heroin overdose and I was just not in a good place and I just started drinking and drugging even more and I was probably 5'8 and 110 pounds.
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I had developed trichotillomania as a kid, which means that you rip out your own hair as a self-harm.
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It's kind of like biting your nails, an uncontrollable urge.
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I still struggle with it.
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I've slicked my hair up because I still stress out, because I still struggle with it, and that goes to say that these things are everlasting.
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Your childhood foundation really does lay a solid foundation of how it's going to affect your life.
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But it is in your control with how you react to things.
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But your hand, your adult, is not in your control, unfortunately.
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But I ended up going to boarding school and that's how I graduated with a GED in Texas.
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You know, after I graduated I left the boarding school.
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I came back, moved in with my grandparents.
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They got divorced shortly after.
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I tried being Mormon, as I was raised for a little bit, because I felt that was the right thing, even though that wasn't what meshed with me.
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But I ended up, you know, getting a college boyfriend.
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We weren't necessarily in a domestic, but it was very toxic.
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He was very mentally ill and I didn't realize that.
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I knew something was always different with me, but I hadn't gotten a diagnosis.
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At that time I was in my early 20s, when we had broken up.
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I checked myself inpatient to figure out what was going on, where I was diagnosed bipolar 1.
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And I started an outpatient therapy group for six months where I met a group of five people and then we became very close.
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One of them committed suicide, so the four of us became super, super close.
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I proceeded with my life.
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I went to aesthetic school.
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I worked as an esthetician for a doctor.
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I became a patient care coordinator, eventually ended up leaving that job, became a medical rep and in 2020, after I had got the great job you know, I had just adopted a dog, I had just got my Audi, my dream car, everything.
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I get a phone call.
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I'm drinking wine you know it's a Saturday night.
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I'm watching Grey's Anatomy, not doing anything crazy, which is really weird for me because I was such a party girl at that time for me to be home doing that, and so that was just so odd because, like for me, like I was doing mushrooms on a Tuesday, like you know, molly, on a Thursday, like you know, I, I got an appendectomy from you know, and I got shipped from the T-Pain concert to the ER and they couldn't even like operate on me because I I was on Molly, my whole family showed up and it was just like I was horrified, but I digress, you know.
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So I get this call and it's one of those people I had met in the therapy group and he was an immigration lawyer.
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We were very close.
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I had, you know, babies, had his kids.
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He had actually defended me on a rape case that I lost.
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So, um, we wrote it, we were tight and he was hysterical.
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I've never heard anyone hysterical like this in my whole entire life.
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And he said can you come check on me?
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And I said, well, I've been drinking, you know I can't, I can't come check on you, but, um, uh, you can call me an Uber, and you know I can.
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I can come see how you're doing.
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I mean, I can't drive, but you can call me an Uber.
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And so I take an Uber over there and I walk into the house and there's a whole table full of guns, passports, multiple cell phones, ids and cash.
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My stomach just dropped, my heart just dropped to my stomach.
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I felt like I was going to throw up and I went to leave.
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He grabbed me by the back of my hair, slammed me down and I proceeded to get assaulted and be you know for what felt like days.
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Was he the only person in the house?
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Yes.
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Or were there other people?
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Oh, my God.
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There was no one in the house and he lived up in kind of the hills of like way, kind of far out of the city in Utah, so like the neighbors weren't close, he had just built this house Like no one could hear me screaming, no one could hear me crying, and like he was in a psychosis, I believe, of some sort because he kept calling me his ex-wife's name.
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So I did what Oprah, you know, suggested to do and I humanized myself.
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I was like you know me.
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We went to therapy together.
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I'm Allie, like I went, like you know, I, you're hurting me, you're hurting me, you're hurting me, like all this stuff.
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And eventually I was able to break away from him for a little bit.
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I ran upstairs, grabbed my phone as he was coming after me I knew I wasn't getting out I pressed voice record real quick because it was one of the top things.
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I was a singer-songwriter, I play guitar and I sing, so it was one of the top things.
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When I scrolled down one of my apps, so I went boom, if I'm going to die, people are going to know how I die, right, which is one of the things I brought to court that you know he got criminally charged, obviously for.
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But anyway, I ended up escaping.
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I was hospitalized for my injury.
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Short after, and two weeks after that I tried to commit suicide.
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I'd take a whole bottle of Xanax, I'd take a whole bottle of Ambien and I'd drink it down with a bottle of rum or whatever I was drinking at the time I think it was rum and I get, you know, sent to the hospital.
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They pink slipped me in Utah is what they call it.
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So I had to go, not by choice and once I was released from the hospital, I went right back to work.
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I was having debilitating breakdowns at work Debilitating Did they mandate any kind of therapy or anything after that?
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Or are they just like?
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Good luck to you, goodbye.
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And yeah they.
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I mean my boss, who you know, him and his wife I'm still close with now.
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They're like a second family to me.
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He essentially told me Allie, look, you got to take a six month unpaid medical leave or we got to put you on unemployment.
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And I was like fuck I was like you know, I got to go on unemployment and which I never even filed for because I started doing a ton of coke to stay awake because this man claimed that he had ties with the cartel.
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Later finding out he's saying he's laundering money for the cartel.
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All this stuff making all these threats, and these cars are following me and detectives are texting me saying do you recognize this car?
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Do you recognize this car?
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And I can't sleep at night.
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I'm doing a ton of cocaine with my upstairs neighbor just to stay awake, who was a dancer and taught me a lot of my moves later in life.
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And you know, I met my ex who was our dealer and he knew all about my situation.
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He knew all about me.
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You know, he was from the East Coast.
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Like he was tough, he was hard.
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He was a Nigerian ex-marine LA crip, like you know, super tough guy, which made me feel super safe because I felt like he was scarier than the person I was dealing with.
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You know what I mean.
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So when I was losing my apartment he said you know, come move in with me, I'll take care of you.
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Like it's going to be fine.
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I got to two weeks into it he's laying hands on me, you know, fast forward.
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Um, you know I'm living in like the only sketchy part of Utah.
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Um, you know, uh, I I still have my dog at the time Her name's Misha.
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Uh and, uh, you know, I end up getting pistol whipped, uh, raped, drowned in a bathtub with aspirational fluid in my lungs.
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He chips my tooth a plethora of things.
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I even eventually lost my child from a beating during that time.
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And you know, one of these times, like I finally admitted, I had like a problem and I called my family, like after I lost my child, and I was like I need to go to rehab.
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And so I went to rehab to get away from him primarily, but because of the Stockholm syndrome and the abuse and everything, I ended up AMA-ing out of there and going straight back to him.
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I was only there two days before.
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I was begging to come back and you know, by the grace of whatever I believe in, they allowed me to come back.
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But then I asked if we could do couples therapy.
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Yeah, did he let you go to rehab, or did you have, to like, sneak out and go?
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I wasn't living with him at the time, because this was one of the many times that I would pick up and leave and say I'm done, I'm never going back.
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So this was.
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I was already out at that point, but he was actively trying to get me back, you know.
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I was like you know, actively at that time.
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So he was happy to pick me up from rehab when I left early.
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He was delighted, you know, and like he, he also was delighted when I left, because he he gets sick of me, like you know what I mean.
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Like he only wants me when I'm behaving and doing what he's wanting me to do, and the second I'm acting out of pocket, you know that's when he doesn't have any regard for me or my life.
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Um, you know I actually had gotten a job after I lost my job as an IT rep.
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I was a sales and marketing director for an IT company.
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I sold BK, kenwood, motorola devices to cops and firefighters and I would have to show up to conferences with handprints on my arm, which I mean I was a heavy alcoholic at that time, doing a ton of cocaine too, and not only that, he had me dealing cocaine.
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He would leave me for days at a time bagging up for him and like it was a mess.
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But I eventually lost that IT job.
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And then when I went to rehab you know I actually still had that IT job until I had gotten out of rehab and you know they let me go.
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I actually still had that IT job until I had gotten out of rehab and they let me go.
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But now my old boss is totally supporting what I'm doing in my nonprofit.
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But it was a really, really scary time for me.
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I had even tried to leave to California once and I crashed out and ran out of money and had to come to him.
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I tried to leave to Vegas once.
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I almost got trafficked again.
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That was the first time I almost got trafficked and he ended up fleeing to Costa Rica after he got arrested because my ex called the cops because he knew each other.
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They had beef.
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He was actually from.
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When I met him, he was actually from Salt Lake and said cancel your plane ticket.
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I had run away from my ex.
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At one point um went to go.
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Someone told me to escort out there, which was like the first time I had done that, um, other than like when I had posted ads of myself on Craigslist as a really young girl, uh.
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But I didn't know what I was doing Right and so, uh, I went out.
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I ended up, uh, you know, basically getting robbed and I met this dude who was like I'm from Salt Lake, cancel your ticket, let's get married in Vegas, let's do all this stuff and we ended up.
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He ends up driving this stolen car that I come to find out back to Salt Lake, gets my stuff.
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We go to stay in my family's condo and then my ex calls the cops on him and he gets arrested because my ex wants me to come back to him.
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So that's a totally different story.
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I don't think I've ever told many people well not a lot of people but um, you know that's crazy and so um so you know, and meanwhile, the first guy, the one like with all the arms and all of that, is he.
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He's in jail.
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Is he still threatening you?
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So?
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he's in jail and he bails out very quickly because he's a lawyer.
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How, oh my God, he's a lawyer and he's on an ankle monitor which he keeps violating to drink.
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He's like taking it off and like putting alcohol on it or like whatever he's doing to like disable it, I don't know, but like he kept fucking up, oh my God, like whatever he's doing to like disable it, I don't know, but like he kept fucking up Like and like they still, like I'm still in a civil lawsuit with him, and like he got criminally charged but you know how many years later, almost five years later, you know I'm in a civil lawsuit still with him and because of what happened to me after that, like I'm losing Because, like in the state of Utah, they very much frown upon anything sexually related and because I was trafficked after that, I have a losing case now Because they couldn't get a hold of me for so many years after that, because I had to keep changing numbers, I had to keep getting phones.
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You were hiding.
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I was hiding, yeah.
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So eventually I go into hiding away from my ex.
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I'm renting I'm like 45 minutes out away from him.
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I'm renting month to month and I start getting ketamine treatments from the doctor I used to work for, who sells me a dream of safety him and his wife.
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So she was in on it too, okay.
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And I move in 24 hours or so I assume I move in 24 hours to his house in New Hampshire and my car and my dog gets driven by a friend at the time you know all the way across country and basically it didn't take long to realize that in order to live there, I had to exchange services to him, which meant I needed to work for free for him and I needed to exploit myself sexually for him.
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So I am going back and forth from New Hampshire, isolated 30 minute drive from the nearest gas station.
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Uh, just me and my dog, every day.
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Um, and then, uh, you know, we end up going to this.
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He, he flies me and another girl out to, uh, st Pete's beach where we ended up getting assaulted, uh and raped and um, you know a lot of stuff, about a lot of bad stuff happened.
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Um, you know, I was terrified, she was terrified.
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We ended up going back.
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The house that I was in flooded while we were on that trip.
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He sent me back.
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I'm sleeping in a debride house.
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My neighbor finds me um, it's me and my dog always.
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And I go to my neighbor's house cause it was his summer house and he wasn't using it during the winter said you can use that Like you know really great guy and you know he's actually my prescribing doctor at this point.
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So he has me on Ambien, xanax, adderall, stocks up a full bar for me Like I could have died and he's withholding meds when I'm not doing what he wants to do and then over-prescribing and making it really dangerous.
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So I end up getting multiple wellness checks called on me by my friends in Boston and you know people back home and one of those wellness checks you know I apparently got charged with.
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Well, I got held on a charge for criminal threatening with a deadly weapon against a police officer.
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I have no recollection of this right Because you're medicated?
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Yeah Well, no, I was unmedicated at that time oh, you were not medicated Because he wasn't prescribing my meds to me, and so I went into withdrawal and psychosis.
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And plus I'm a heavy alcoholic at this point.
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Like heavy, my face is swollen.
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I'm drinking vodka all day, I have nothing to do.
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I'm on a lake in the middle of the woods, for fuck's sakes.
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And so, two weeks into jail, federal agencies show up.
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They end up helping me and then I was thrown in the system.
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So I went from a detox or a rehab to sober, living in Massachusetts.
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And then I get assaulted by a Lyft driver and, um, I end up going to a safe house for women who have been exploited and trafficked and, um, you know, it for me at the time was too strict.
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I ended up leaving after four months.
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I got placed in a program in Virginia where I ended up relapsing.
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My aunt flew out from California, brought me back to Massachusetts where my insurance was.
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I went through detox again.
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You know, I went to a halfway house specific for women who had been trafficked and like, mind you, I didn't want to get sober any of this time.
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I had to do it because I had to have a roof over my head.
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So I was a dry drunk.
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I wanted nothing more but to drink and drug, but I couldn't and I didn't have the money to, or I couldn't afford to, and so I'm on Tinder just doing all the wrong things and I meet this guy, you know.
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And so I'm on Tinder just doing all the wrong things and I meet this guy you know super, super sexy Jamaican dude with a neck tattoo Like you know, just yeah, yeah, okay, like, oh my gosh, there's so many things.
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How did the federal agents get you Like, were they watching this guy?
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Or how?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Okay, I don't know, I don't know.
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Well, I do think, now that I think about it, he did show up to my court case with a bag of medications and flew into my court case with a bag of meds, trying to get custody of me, like Britney Spears.
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Oh my.
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God.
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So I think that was a red flag for them and I think the jail might have called them at the time, you know, and so I digress.
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I mean, they show up, I wouldn't talk to them for two weeks.
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I stayed two extra weeks in jail because I thought I was in trouble, right, like you know, I thought this was, you know, my problem, and so I was super scared.
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But, you know, and I was still in active psychosis, like I thought I was pregnant with 50 cents baby, I thought, like OT Genesis was going to come pick up my dog, who I eventually lost because my family and my trafficker gave her up while I was in jail.
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I was devastated.
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I still miss her to this day.
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She's my best friend and the logo for my nonprofit is actually she looks exactly like her and so that's why I use that logo.
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She was a German wolf mix.
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Just, very, very precious, beautiful, okay.
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