Sept. 23, 2025

87-Red Flags and Reality: Escaping Domestic Violence with Tiffiny Newton

What does domestic violence really look like behind closed doors? In this raw, unfiltered conversation, host Ingrid sits down with fellow survivor Tiffiny Newton for a candid exploration of abuse dynamics that goes far beyond what most people understand.

Together, they unpack the subtle warning signs that precede full-blown abuse – the love bombing, future faking, and gradual escalation of control that can feel deceptively like love. "It's the green screen of relationships," Tiffiny explains, describing how abusers create an illusion before revealing their true nature. Their discussion reveals how technology has become a powerful tool for abusers, with surveillance cameras, GPS tracking, and digital monitoring creating virtual prisons.

The most chilling revelations come when they discuss how abusers weaponize vulnerabilities. Those personal insecurities and past traumas shared in intimate moments? They become ammunition for devastating psychological attacks later. Both women describe living in constant fight-or-flight mode, where even "good times" become torture because of the anxiety about when the next explosion might occur.

Perhaps most valuable is their practical wisdom about escape. From creating code words with trusted friends to secretly moving belongings to storage units, they offer survival strategies for the most dangerous phase of abuse – when a victim decides to leave. "Focus on what the next 48 hours looks like," Tiffiny advises, breaking down overwhelming fear into manageable steps.

As Domestic Violence Awareness Month approaches, this episode serves as both a wake-up call and a lifeline. Whether you're questioning your own relationship, supporting someone you love, or simply want to understand this pervasive issue better, you'll gain insights that could save lives. Remember Tiffiny's powerful closing message: "You are not ever supposed to be in a position where you feel less than who you really are."

Tiffiny's Links: 

https://www.1in3podcast.com/guests/tiffiny-newton/

https://www.tiffinynewton.com

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Cover art by Laura Swift Dahlke
Music by Tim Crowe

00:46 - Welcome to a Different Conversation

04:48 - The Many Faces of Abuse

14:51 - Red Flags and Love Bombing

24:25 - Control Tactics and Surveillance

33:58 - The Struggle to Leave

43:44 - After Escape: Healing and Memory

54:54 - Building Safety Plans and Resources

01:02:02 - Closing Thoughts and Empowerment

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Hi warriors, welcome to one in three.

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I'm your host, ingrid.

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Today's episode is going to be a little bit different.

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I'm joined by fellow survivor, tiffany Newton, for a casual conversation on red flags and the realities of domestic violence.

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As we are about to head into domestic violence awareness month, I really want you to listen, for any insights or parallels you may connect with your own experiences.

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So grab a cup of coffee, get comfortable and join Tiffany and I in this conversation.

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Hi Tiffany, thank you so much for joining me today.

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How are you doing?

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Good.

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Thanks so much for having me.

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I'm excited.

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So am I.

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Before we get into our just general conversation, could you give a background, just so listeners can get to know you a little bit?

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Sure, the main reason we are talking is because of the domestic violence background that I have in my abusive situation.

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After escaping I was too full of shame and guilt to really talk about it, so I stayed very internalized which is not healthy, by the way very internalized and slowly reaching out to people who got isolated, who I got isolated from.

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And as I started sharing my story, other people started sharing their stories and little do you know that most people you come into contact with have had some type of abuse, whether it is verbal, coercive control, gaslighting, whatever the level, all the way up to physical in the hospital type scenarios.

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So in going through that, I started a nonprofit.

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I would love to do a shelter, but that takes a lot of time and a lot of money.

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So I started with self-defense teaching women and bringing in certified instructors to specific workshops that we set up and teaching them self-defense tactics and, you know, questions from law enforcement, questions from mental health counselors to like really find all the answers in one place rather than having to search on the internet or search on your phone, because I was being tracked on both of those devices.

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And then from there I wrote a book.

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From there I wrote a book and the book isn't necessarily geared towards victims who are currently in the situation, and here's why Is you probably aren't allowed to buy a book like this.

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If it arrived on your doorstep and your abuser saw it, he would toss it out.

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So the book is actually geared towards family and friends of loved ones who are in situations.

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So it's more of a guide on how to approach people and have that discussion and keep yourself as the safe person to talk to, so you don't get isolated from the victim.

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And then my story is actually woven in as examples.

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So it's not about the book, is not about me.

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It is about helping someone and then giving real life examples everything.

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And you know, I'm a healthcare professional, so I know I have some of the training to recognize domestic violence.

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There's so many people I could have reached out to.

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I have amazing family, amazing friends, but I kept it all internalized.

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And then when I got out, I did the same thing.

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I started talking with some friends and it was, you know, not to use the hashtag but it was like, oh, me too, and me too, and me too, and I have a very close-knit group of four women that I'm friends with locally that all four of us have been in some sort of an abusive relationship.

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So it is incredible to hear all the commonalities among people that you know and it's you know.

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They have no idea about you and you have no idea about them.

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Everybody thought we each had these amazing lives.

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Yeah, unless you end up in the hospital because of it.

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Most people don't know the other stuff that is considered abuse, because we all are taught abuse is the physical side, right, and that's the first thing of if you say you were abused oh where did you get hit?

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Like that's the first thing most people go to, but that isn't the most common.

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Right and that's the easily provable point too is all that stuff that happens behind the closed doors, where you're reluctant to say anything, because how do you even prove that's happening?

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Yeah, florida is a two consent state for recording, so it's not like you can even record them and then bring that to court.

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Right.

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I mean, that is a friend of mine actually was in that specific scenario, like they had the attorneys that she's like.

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This is what I have and it is on record.

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And they do have, thankfully, one witness that watched it happen.

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So it isn't just the video, because he didn't consent to get getting videotaped.

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They do have backup eyewitness.

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But yeah, I mean, how do you go against something like that if it's not seen, it's hard to prove that it's not he said she said or it does become he said she said.

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Well, and then, even if you say that, whatever situation escalates enough to call the police, but there's no physical outward appearances by the time the police show up, you have an abuser who a lot of times has some sort of a personality disorder where they can turn it off and turn into this most charming individual because they have zero accountability.

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And then you have a victim who's just been abused and freaking out and they look like they're potentially the crazy one.

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And then it's.

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You know this?

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Oh, I say this happened to me and it was awful, it was awful.

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And then you have the abuser, like I don't know what he or she are talking about.

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Yeah, they're crazy.

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Like look, this is what I have to deal with on the daily and such a stark example like that.

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If you watch the Gabby Petito story on Netflix, prime example, brian Landry is sitting back there shooting the crap with the cops and she's like losing it.

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I don't know, it's my fault.

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Like I don't know, I probably did.

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Until that gets recognized that behavior difference it's always going to be a problem to recognize.

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In those scenarios, when a cop shows up, the calm one is probably the abuser.

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You're absolutely right, and that's the exact example that I thought of when I saw that it took me.

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I can remember there was one particular time not a current position that I have but it was like you are going to have to do this or you're going to have to do this, and meanwhile I'm thinking of my abuser, who's going to flip out about this, and I'm like you have no idea.

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You have no idea what this is going to do to me and I'm looking completely nuts because this is so out of context.

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Do to me, and I'm looking completely nuts because this is so out of context and I'm sure they were like holy shit, we need to let this girl go.

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She's a loose cannon.

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But it was just that accumulation of everything just flooding out.

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Yeah, it's interesting because I mean the abuser will make you late for work, you'll get passed up for promotions.

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Getting promotions, you know it impacts your ability to fend for yourself.

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In the grand scheme of things, it's.

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It's so sad.

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Oh, definitely.

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Do you want to speak a little bit about your personal experience?

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personal experience.

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Sure, I mean I.

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One of the biggest things that I'm such an advocate for is recognizing red flags, because that's the gateway and if you ignore those first red flags, you're already in the bucket of trauma bonding because they're going, they know they're red flags, they're enjoying you ignoring the red flags and they're already sucking you in.

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So my biggest thing is I met my abuser at a dog park.

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So the fact that he loved animals, that he was into fitness, like he ate healthy, Like I, was like, oh my goodness, where have you been?

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Like this, is amazing.

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We have such and such in common.

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Now I'm a firm believer you don't need to have everything in common.

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That becomes boring.

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You need your time apart, you need your own hobbies.

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But I had been so different with people that I had dated that it was nice and comforting to find the commonalities right, Even if it was just a few.

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But with him, because of mirroring, it became quite a lot right, and so I ignored many of the red flags in the beginning.

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The future faking, the love bombing that you know.

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Let's go down to Miami for the weekend.

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Literally, we started dating like the month before.

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Let's go to Miami for the weekend.

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Here's a bracelet.

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You know, help me pick out tile for the new place, because you'll be spending a bunch of time there.

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Like all of these things, like painting the pretty picture of our future and making you feel like it is love, but it's all fake.

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It is like the green screen of relationships.

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I love that.

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I've never heard that before.

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But it's a mask.

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It's fake and they're just standing in front of it or behind it.

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You know, like the mask that they're wearing, but they are okay with lying to you and coercing you into believing their way.

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They'll eat healthier for a while with you.

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They will go to the gym, but they'll give you guilt about going to the gym or what you're wearing to the gym like the little.

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Let's go do this, but knock you down a peg right so all of those little tiny things and then the rules become more intense and the consequences become more intense.

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Like it just becomes this snowball effect or avalanche effect by the end of it of if you're not doing this, some severe stuff is going to happen.

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Like the threats are, even if the actual threat isn't coming out of their mouth.

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Their body language is absolutely telling you the threat, backing you into corners, raising their voice, ripping stuff out of your hand while you're at work, throwing your stuff and breaking your stuff at home.

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That means a lot to you getting rid of things, giving stuff to goodwill that you've had for probably 20 plus years, and that means everything to you all gone.

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Those are the things that anything that meant anything, planting evidence also.

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They will plant evidence and grill you on it until you're like, well, I don't know.

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I don't know what to believe, until you just succumb and comply with whatever reality that they have painted for you.

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And that was that was.

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I mean, that was.

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Psychological torture is basically mean.

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I had to sleep with the lights on, and when I would go to turn them off, he'd come right back out and be like you're a guest here, you're going to sleep.

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How I tell you to sleep, oh my God.

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And by the time you wake up in the morning you're like that was just a bad dream, no way would anyone treat.

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And you just kind of compartmentalize it, you put it behind, because you wake up in the morning and he is acting like nothing ever happened, Like everything was lovey-dovey.

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Good morning, honey, you know, I love you, whatever let's go to the gym.

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Like all of a sudden you're like am I losing my mind?

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Was that like a nightmare that I had?

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What's going on, like that state of confusion alone is a red flag If you ever feel that it's time to escape.

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Oh, definitely.

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And sleep deprivation is a way, one of the means that they use to help control, because you I mean, when you're not getting enough sleep, it is difficult to understand what is reality, what is not reality.

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And just to be put on that constant edge of confusion is you're just at this heightened.

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You're always in that fight or flight, your adrenaline is always up and you know, the good times eventually, for me, ended up being worse than the bad times, because the good times it was what's going to happen.

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I mean, I remember telling him at one point I wish you were just an asshole all the time, so I knew what to expect every day.

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Yeah, oh, such an uncomfortable feeling constant state of anxiousness, I guess is the feeling where your cortisol levels are crazy high because you're just you're bracing for what's next.

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Like that it's you're going up the roller coaster, but with a roller coaster you know the dip is at the end.

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You just don't know in the relationship when it's going to happen.

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Right, exactly, and so another thing that you brought up is a lot of times people don't understand that physical abuse doesn't have to be a punch or a broken bone or anything.

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Posturing just even standing next to you to make you feel like you're intimidated is physical abuse, and throwing things for sure is physical abuse.

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Yeah, I mean, it's just.

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I mean I'm 5'4", 125 pounds.

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He was 6'2", 250.

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Double my size.

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But he would back me into a corner, back me against the fridge, back me up against a wall and scream in my face like this, close to my face.

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Well, and then they do things like that to push you into like a reactive abuse.

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So then you have no choice but to lash out or defend yourself.

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And I mean, it happened to me a few times where I started yelling and it was almost like an out of body experience where I'm watching it happen and I'm like what are you doing?

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This isn't you, but it was just, I couldn't control it.

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And then they stand back and look at you and not even think.

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They say it out loud like, oh my gosh, you're crazy.

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Luckily for me it didn't come to this, but some people have been videotaped, you know.

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Right here, Right here.

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Yeah, it was at the very end, actually, was it?

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Yeah, this was the very last time that I actually moved out.

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I was naked, except for underwear, and he had just come back from a trip and he said you know why are you using LinkedIn to date people?

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I'm like I'm not using LinkedIn for anything other than it's a resume site for me, like that's you connections with, you know past people you've worked with or networked with within that business, and he's like that's a lie.

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And he pulls up this guy who asked me out on a date seven years ago, before I even met him, like seven years ago, and I'm like that was a bazillion years ago.

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You can see I shut it down, you can see my response, but he was using it to date.

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He would meet someone on Match, follow him on LinkedIn and send the messages on LinkedIn.

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So I found that out and I confronted him about it, even though it was before.

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You know we met, whatever, but so was that's what he was coming at me for.

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So he then goes in and starts deleting them to then make you know me pointing out proof it's not there anymore because he's deleting it.

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So now I am crazy, right?

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So I lose my shit and I I just was like like that, feeling like that.

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I felt like a little japanese anime character, like that's the best visual.

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I love it and I went like that and like flung my arms out to this side.

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Well, this side hit a glass picture that was hanging on the wall.

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That was not my intent.

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I had blood like dripping off my hand.

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He starts laughing and picks up his phone and starts videotaping me.

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I'm naked.

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I have blood dripping from my hand.

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Oh, my God.

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But he thought it was funny because of I'm crazy, it like literally it is he.

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I mean, he started installing the first condo that we lived in.

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He put a one camera and it was at basically at the front bar so you could see who came in to the front door and you could see, like who was in the hallway, in the living room, like it was kind of like angled, where you could kind of see the whole room.

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And then he left on a trip and all of a sudden there was a nanny cam in the bedroom and I didn't find out about it until the box literally fell from the shelf.

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It was an alarm clock nannycam, oh my God.

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And so as soon as I saw that, I'm like I have to protect myself.

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So I got a USB listening device.

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It looked like a thumb drive and the audio would kick on when someone started speaking.

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So that's how I found he out.

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He cheated on me, oh my god, after he kicked me out of the condo the first time, um, and then I got a um, it was a power bank that you can get and the power bank had a little pinhole camera.

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Oh, so I got that as well because, miraculously, when I would leave for work.

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The cameras weren't working, oh my God.

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And then we moved to the next condo and he installed a camera in the bedroom, the front door, like there were like four cameras and he would.

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When he was out of town, he would watch me sleep.

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I could see the red light come on and if the cameras were off when he was out of town it was like fix the cameras or you can move your shit out.

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Right now I'll call the cops and have them move you out of the place.

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Well, and there's no reason to have indoor cameras except for, I mean, if you have pets or something that you need to keep an eye on, or if you have children and you're concerned about.

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Like at the doors, point them at the door.

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Yeah, there's no reason to have it in your bedroom.

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Right, so I had to learn where those cameras were, cause that's how I ended up sneaking my stuff out prior to actually moving out, cause I had to put together a plan, right?

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I?

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Left four times before the final fifth time, and so I started saying I was giving stuff to Goodwill and so I would roll stuff out into my car and drop it off at the storage unit.

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Wow.

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So what happened?

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Because you know the statistics are on average, somebody takes seven times to leave before they officially leave, and I just want to point out that if you're on time number nine, that doesn't mean that you're hopeless and you've already extended your chances.

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You just need the right safety plan to get out.

00:20:42.059 --> 00:20:42.381
Right.

00:20:42.381 --> 00:20:45.330
So what happened the first few times when you left?

00:20:46.580 --> 00:20:51.315
The first time I left was we had a really dumb fight.

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That's when he took my keys and kicked me out and I left the first listening device behind, just because of some weird things that happened prior, and that's a whole other part of the story.

00:21:03.644 --> 00:21:14.191
But I left and he called me when I got to the hotel and he was like you know, are you, are you sure you don't want to come here and give me a blow job?

00:21:14.191 --> 00:21:16.592
I mean that would just fix everything.

00:21:16.592 --> 00:21:18.394
You know it would put us in a better place.

00:21:18.394 --> 00:21:19.013
Blah, blah, blah.

00:21:19.013 --> 00:21:25.317
And I'm like no, I'm, I'm tired, I've been crying, I'm not coming there tonight.

00:21:25.961 --> 00:21:27.488
And that's when he had someone come over.

00:21:27.488 --> 00:21:43.508
He was just confirming that I wasn't going to come over, but I didn't know that until I got the USB and I went to work and I listened to what went on that night and then I confronted him about it and he was like we were broken up.

00:21:43.508 --> 00:21:45.565
That had nothing to do with you.

00:21:45.565 --> 00:21:48.765
We were broken up and he's like and how did you record this?

00:21:48.765 --> 00:21:50.670
I'm like my iPad.

00:21:50.670 --> 00:21:52.741
He's like get the iPad out of here before I break it.

00:21:52.741 --> 00:21:55.988
Which I lied right.

00:21:55.988 --> 00:22:01.282
I lied for my own safety on that one, because I had the recording on my phone.

00:22:01.282 --> 00:22:06.861
He pushed me down, threw me down and ripped the phone out of my hand and broke my phone.

00:22:06.881 --> 00:22:08.305
Oh, my God.

00:22:08.325 --> 00:22:10.088
Um, so I had to get a new phone.

00:22:10.088 --> 00:22:11.913
Um, so that was the first time.

00:22:11.913 --> 00:22:15.846
And why I went back after that, I don't know.

00:22:15.846 --> 00:22:20.840
Maybe it is his charm and the we were never, we weren't together.

00:22:20.840 --> 00:22:24.546
You can't technically say that I cheated on you, blah, blah, blah.

00:22:24.546 --> 00:22:29.030
Another time it was it's all.

00:22:29.030 --> 00:22:30.532
It was all been around fights.

00:22:30.532 --> 00:22:33.056
We would have a fight and I would.

00:22:33.056 --> 00:22:39.082
I would say you know, I'm done, I I need to leave this.

00:22:39.082 --> 00:22:39.682
This is very dangerous.

00:22:39.682 --> 00:22:43.170
One of the times I left during a hurricane because it was like I just couldn't take it anymore.

00:22:44.071 --> 00:22:51.188
Um, but he was just like you know, we belong together if it's just the two of us against the world.

00:22:51.188 --> 00:22:54.362
Like why do you have to put so much other shit in front of us?

00:22:54.362 --> 00:22:58.130
If you were to just put us first that, you would be fine.

00:22:58.130 --> 00:22:59.653
Like this would.

00:22:59.653 --> 00:23:08.622
And like again the future, faking the love, bombing, bombing the flowers arrive, the you know we're going to go to Paris for Christmas, like all of this stuff.

00:23:08.622 --> 00:23:15.493
Yeah, it just became a drug.

00:23:15.493 --> 00:23:16.836
It was a drug of chaos.

00:23:16.836 --> 00:23:18.900
Like they loop you into that.

00:23:19.945 --> 00:23:29.711
But once you see the light at the end of the tunnel, that plan, the safety plan, right, like I was exiting things out little by little.

00:23:29.711 --> 00:23:37.755
I had oh he knew I had the storage unit because some of his stuff was in there and some of his mom's stuff was in there.

00:23:37.755 --> 00:23:48.000
But he didn't realize I was shipping stuff to Amazon boxes, you know, like those Amazon lockers outside of like Lowe's and Target and 7-Elevens and whatever.

00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:54.857
I was shipping stuff there and taking those boxes and dropping them at the storage unit.

00:23:54.857 --> 00:23:57.253
So everything was on my way to and from work.

00:23:57.253 --> 00:24:01.135
So if it was a stop it was like two seconds.

00:24:01.135 --> 00:24:06.196
It never added 10 additional minutes because he was tracking my time as well.

00:24:08.346 --> 00:24:16.175
So once I had that plan in place, all I was waiting for is what is going to be the straw that broke the camel's back.

00:24:16.175 --> 00:24:19.009
What is that one thing that he's going to say?

00:24:19.009 --> 00:24:22.678
That is the line in the sand, like what does he have to do?

00:24:22.678 --> 00:24:28.557
And I was working from home on a Saturday.

00:24:28.557 --> 00:24:30.323
I had one hour left of work.

00:24:30.323 --> 00:24:38.273
I was on the phone with a client I was working for a medical facility at the time, so no one could see my computer because it's all HIPAA compliant.

00:24:38.273 --> 00:24:41.406
You know, you have to protect all of the health information.

00:24:41.406 --> 00:24:48.387
And he comes in and he drops his drawers and sticks his dick in my face and he's like give me a blowjob.

00:24:48.387 --> 00:24:52.357
I'm like I'm working, like I have another hour, you can wait.

00:24:52.357 --> 00:25:10.613
And he's like why can't you satisfy me?

00:25:10.613 --> 00:25:12.914
I deserve blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, like I.

00:25:12.914 --> 00:25:14.376
He's like I'm just going.

00:25:14.396 --> 00:25:28.817
The other things weren't disrespectful, but at that time I drew the line in the sand, like one more time, of this blatant disrespect, like the little comments weren't enough to be like okay, that's it.

00:25:28.817 --> 00:25:41.374
It was like this was physical, assaulting me with his dick in my face, like telling me, threatening me that he's going to go somewhere else, like just this stuff.

00:25:41.374 --> 00:25:44.903
And I was like I'm done, and that's what.

00:25:44.903 --> 00:25:53.846
I shut my computer and I got in trouble with work because I logged off an hour early and I almost lost my job.

00:25:53.846 --> 00:25:55.790
But that was it.

00:25:55.790 --> 00:26:03.018
That was my line in the sand, that was the disrespect that I said I'm done, I can't handle this anymore.

00:26:04.422 --> 00:26:10.474
Well, and I think there's so many of us that have that final moment, and it's it.

00:26:10.474 --> 00:26:12.239
And it doesn't necessarily come out of the blue.

00:26:12.239 --> 00:26:13.587
It's like what you were mentioning.

00:26:13.587 --> 00:26:15.031
It's already in your mind.

00:26:15.031 --> 00:26:17.198
You're already thinking I can't do this anymore.

00:26:17.198 --> 00:26:22.376
And for me, I knew, you know, I said I know there's going to be something that happens.

00:26:22.376 --> 00:26:23.531
That's going to be the last.

00:26:24.134 --> 00:26:24.759
I know I need to.

00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:31.959
So it's deciding and telling yourself and making a promise to yourself what is that?

00:26:31.959 --> 00:26:34.368
What is the last thing that I'm going to deal with?

00:26:34.368 --> 00:26:34.809
What is that?

00:26:34.829 --> 00:26:35.892
What is the last thing that I'm going to deal with?

00:26:35.892 --> 00:26:46.468
And you may have no idea and it might be something that's happened before, but for whatever reason, that time you're like that's it, I'm done.

00:26:46.468 --> 00:26:52.538
But going back, they are master manipulators and they are fantastic about turning the situation around.

00:26:52.538 --> 00:27:02.096
So if they say something disrespectful to you and you go up to them and you're like you know, the other day you called me this like that's not okay.

00:27:02.096 --> 00:27:07.984
Well then they're so good about like you have no idea what was going on with me in that day.

00:27:07.984 --> 00:27:12.494
You never asked me how my day was and I was having a really rough day.

00:27:12.494 --> 00:27:13.857
You didn't seem to care.

00:27:14.404 --> 00:27:27.431
And then you're coming at me with all of this extra stuff and I'm already stressed out and I'm just trying to make a great life for us, and then you're throwing this additional stress on me and then you're like, oh my God, I am so sorry, I had no idea.

00:27:27.431 --> 00:27:31.816
And you're apologizing for something that you never did wrong.

00:27:31.816 --> 00:27:45.554
There's nothing wrong with saying like, calling me a bitch is not okay, and I mean, but they're so good at it, they're so good at twisting that narrative to make you think, oh, I'm so sorry.

00:27:45.554 --> 00:27:49.507
And then you know you think back at the beginning the love bombing like you it was.

00:27:49.507 --> 00:27:50.810
It's like a heroin.

00:27:50.810 --> 00:27:54.307
I've never done heroin so I really don't know if it's truly like this.

00:27:54.367 --> 00:28:36.796
But it's like that heroin high that you got a taste of and you're just chasing trying to get back to it and it's addictive, it is, and that's the trauma bond I went back through because, while I was discovering some things through, when the light first came on in my mind, I started paying closer attention and I started in a different email that he didn't know about, I'd never accessed on my phone, so it was never connected to anything that he ever saw.

00:28:36.796 --> 00:28:38.188
I did it at work.

00:28:38.188 --> 00:28:47.249
I would forward things to myself and then delete the forwarding, so it only lived there and I would delete the delete as I'm writing the book and I told him for.

00:28:47.308 --> 00:28:48.609
Christmas.

00:28:48.609 --> 00:29:16.859
I didn't want any presents, I just wanted us to be happy like we were in the beginning, like I was begging for things to get back to normal, like paragraph upon paragraph upon paragraph of you know I wish this.

00:29:16.859 --> 00:29:23.179
It was like I was trying to woo him versus him apologizing for anything.

00:29:23.179 --> 00:29:30.871
He never apologized for anything until after I, until I, it was all done and final and it was this didn't matter to me.

00:29:30.871 --> 00:29:32.655
I'm so sorry, I'll go get help.

00:29:32.655 --> 00:29:35.334
Like of course it mattered.

00:29:35.334 --> 00:29:36.931
You monitored everything.

00:29:36.931 --> 00:29:52.848
Absolutely was an issue, and the reality side of things is, even if you discover something, they'll tell you that wasn't me.

00:29:52.848 --> 00:29:56.056
Even if you hard evidence, it was not me.

00:29:56.056 --> 00:29:57.117
That is not me.

00:29:57.117 --> 00:29:58.667
I'm like that's your email.

00:29:58.667 --> 00:30:01.733
Who else had access to your email?

00:30:01.733 --> 00:30:02.154
No one?

00:30:02.154 --> 00:30:03.017
Well then, that's you.

00:30:03.257 --> 00:30:19.098
no, it wasn't me right and they have no problem denying something that you can prove yeah and then, if on a chance that they admit that they did something, it was because you made them.

00:30:19.098 --> 00:30:20.881
They had no choice.

00:30:20.881 --> 00:30:21.981
Of course I did that.

00:30:21.981 --> 00:30:23.369
Look what you did to me first.

00:30:23.369 --> 00:30:24.073
Yeah.

00:30:26.185 --> 00:30:37.059
And then it's that living like that, when you finally get out and you're trying to heal yourself, how you question your reality even then.

00:30:37.059 --> 00:30:47.913
I mean, it's been a really long time since I've been out of my relationship and I will sit and think back on things and think did that really happen?

00:30:47.913 --> 00:30:50.778
Did I maybe exaggerate what happened in my head?

00:30:51.439 --> 00:30:51.679
Yeah.

00:30:52.505 --> 00:30:53.207
And it is wild.

00:30:54.209 --> 00:31:10.326
It is wild because our memory plays tricks on us right, like we were so in the fog, I guess, or in the tornado of that relationship that all you can do now is trust your body.

00:31:10.326 --> 00:31:17.461
Your body is reacting and will probably react for many, many, many years.

00:31:17.461 --> 00:31:30.231
I mean, it'll be seven years in October since I escaped and I still wake up with night terrors, like he's sitting on my chest, like your body as you heal.

00:31:30.231 --> 00:31:41.772
There will be something else that uncovers or gets triggered another memory of oh my God, I did go through that, but I blocked it Like I never wanted to think of that again.

00:31:41.772 --> 00:31:48.290
But that happened and all of a sudden you'll break out in tears for no reason, absolutely for a reason.

00:31:48.290 --> 00:31:51.394
But for you in that moment it's like why am I in tears?

00:31:51.394 --> 00:31:56.497
And then you realize because it did happen, because I did go through this.

00:31:57.625 --> 00:32:14.153
Well, and what sucks is you can have other non-traumatizing memories that have happened that you can't remember because it happened during that time, where you were being abused and your brain more or less was like we need to close off.

00:32:14.153 --> 00:32:29.929
This time You're in, you know fight or flight and you're just trying to survive, and so there can be chunks of your memory where you're like I cannot remember any of that and you can have like so many people in your life saying, no, this happened.

00:32:29.929 --> 00:32:32.134
I mean, my mom and I were just having a conversation.

00:32:32.134 --> 00:32:32.856
We were trying to talk.

00:32:32.856 --> 00:32:37.017
She was telling me about a party that we had had years and years and years ago.

00:32:37.017 --> 00:32:39.505
And I'm like I don't remember that.

00:32:39.505 --> 00:32:41.950
What are you talking about?

00:32:41.950 --> 00:32:45.958
Yes, and she's like this person was there and this person was there.

00:32:45.958 --> 00:32:47.867
And I'm like are you sure?

00:32:47.867 --> 00:32:53.095
And I'm like that is really not like me to not remember things.

00:32:53.095 --> 00:32:57.105
I have a great memory, and I mean, even going to bed last night.

00:32:57.105 --> 00:32:58.087
It bothered me.

00:32:58.087 --> 00:33:02.195
I laid there in bed and I just thought how could I forget this?

00:33:02.837 --> 00:33:05.369
It makes absolutely no sense, but it does.

00:33:05.369 --> 00:33:07.455
It does make sense.

00:33:07.455 --> 00:33:11.967
But yeah, I mean, your brain is trying to protect you.

00:33:12.969 --> 00:33:28.249
It's you know, and you end up hearing, especially as you start, like coming out of your own shell and I'm sure you experienced this too, because it sounds like we were both kind of in the similar like shame and guilt kind of introvert, you know, trying to deal with it ourselves.

00:33:29.771 --> 00:33:38.048
But as you start talking about it and other people tell you their stories, but you don't necessarily see yourself in the story that they're telling.

00:33:38.048 --> 00:33:43.892
Like, as an example, I was on a Zoom call with someone and they were telling a story.

00:33:43.892 --> 00:34:07.211
But then that night I had a dream that I was being raped by my boyfriend Because it happened, oh my gosh.

00:34:07.211 --> 00:34:17.460
But I had blocked it Because you think that just because you're sharing the same bed, that that's okay.

00:34:17.460 --> 00:34:20.853
Yes, let's have sex, whatever, just to comply.

00:34:20.853 --> 00:34:27.434
Well, complying is not yes, complying is a coerced yes.

00:34:27.434 --> 00:34:29.170
And that's not the same.

00:34:29.170 --> 00:34:31.987
And it took me a long time to admit.

00:34:31.987 --> 00:34:38.735
Sexual assault happens in like 95% of abuse cases.

00:34:38.735 --> 00:34:44.101
It's rape and it's not okay.

00:34:44.101 --> 00:34:52.090
They will make you think it's okay because they reward you for having sex, because they're nice to you when they're done.

00:34:52.090 --> 00:34:53.994
If you're not in the mood, that's a no.

00:34:53.994 --> 00:34:56.259
Take care of yourself.

00:34:56.259 --> 00:35:04.697
If I didn't do what he wanted, he would violently masturbate next to me.

00:35:25.074 --> 00:35:26.635
Where it shook the whole bed.

00:35:26.635 --> 00:35:27.815
It was like guilt trip central.

00:35:27.815 --> 00:35:28.815
It became unbearable.

00:35:28.815 --> 00:35:38.721
It was unbearable that it's abusive, or maybe understanding it is abusive but still thinking there's some way to fix it or not, you know, lost, not sure what to do.

00:35:38.721 --> 00:35:56.036
One of the key things that sort of paves the path of a victim in actually getting out is encounters that they have with other people, and are they going to be believed, are they going to be supported?

00:35:56.036 --> 00:36:02.257
And having a book that's directed to those people is so incredibly important.

00:36:03.105 --> 00:36:05.829
Yeah, it is a.

00:36:05.829 --> 00:36:12.039
It's a scary cover, Ooh okay.

00:36:25.954 --> 00:36:29.797
So you're, you're, this is what you feel like on the behind your own mask, right?

00:36:29.797 --> 00:36:35.920
So, oh, okay, if you're checking, yes, on any of these, you're in a situation.

00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:39.867
Yeah, um, the power and control wheel is in here.

00:36:39.867 --> 00:37:00.210
Any domestic violence or domestic abuse center has the power and control wheel and they have it for multiple, like military, lgbtq, like they've got them for every known cultural segment because they are slightly different for each.

00:37:00.210 --> 00:37:26.123
Like teen abuse versus adult abuse, probably the hardest, because the abuser a lot of times is very nice to your family, very nice on the surface to any friend that they let you still have.

00:37:26.123 --> 00:37:32.545
They're amazing to their own friends, right, they're charismatic.

00:37:32.545 --> 00:37:34.686
They're charismatic.

00:37:34.686 --> 00:38:04.295
They are more than likely have some type of narcissistic one of the nine different you know, tendencies that all ball up into like a chaotic nightmare no-transcript or believed.

00:38:04.335 --> 00:38:06.195
I guess I spoke to this young man.

00:38:06.195 --> 00:38:11.280
He's in his 30s and his girlfriend was absolutely abusive to him.

00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:12.443
They have a child together.

00:38:12.443 --> 00:38:16.179
Anytime he got a job, she would show up and get him fired.

00:38:16.179 --> 00:38:20.998
She would cause chaos and get him fired because she wanted him where she could have eyes on him.

00:38:20.998 --> 00:38:37.978
She had a camera at the house, kept him like as contained as possible and he's like I don't feel like my contained as possible and he's like I don't feel like my mom believed me and I'm like your mom absolutely believed you because she called me to talk to you.

00:38:37.998 --> 00:38:58.170
Yeah, I met her through a whole other avenue, but we just started talking and I was like yeah, you know, I have a nonprofit on the side and I help people understand what red flags are and, if they're in bad situations, be able to connect them to local resources and educate them on what they're currently dealing with.

00:38:58.170 --> 00:38:59.813
I'm not a therapist.

00:38:59.813 --> 00:39:06.253
I absolutely am an advocate because I'm also a survivor and have seen it for myself.

00:39:06.253 --> 00:39:18.952
Right, and so she was like well, I want you to talk to my son and I'm like if his phone's being monitored, I do not want him calling me directly, because that's stranger danger.

00:39:18.952 --> 00:39:27.436
If his girlfriend is abusing him and she sees a girl's number on your phone that she doesn't recognize, it's going to get a hell of a lot worse.

00:39:27.436 --> 00:39:31.523
I mean, the girl picked up a knife and tried to stab him at one point.

00:39:31.523 --> 00:39:36.255
So that tells you like the escalation of everything.

00:39:37.938 --> 00:39:52.085
But knowing how to set the stage, the terms to utilize, like don't say you need to leave, because what if the victim goes back?

00:39:52.085 --> 00:39:58.503
Well, my mom or my sister or my coworker says that I need to leave, I'm in an abusive relationship.

00:39:58.503 --> 00:40:02.034
Well, guess who's getting isolated next?

00:40:02.034 --> 00:40:05.038
You've already put that person at the top of the list.

00:40:05.038 --> 00:40:16.623
Like using that language, you are putting that person in more isolation, so saying things like how do you feel when he's not around?

00:40:18.971 --> 00:40:24.900
How do you feel when you have to make a decision and they want your?

00:40:24.900 --> 00:40:27.824
They say that you need their approval to make.

00:40:27.824 --> 00:40:30.057
How do you feel even in making decisions?

00:40:30.057 --> 00:40:36.764
There's a whole plethora of questions that you can go through just to see their anxiety level.

00:40:36.764 --> 00:40:50.166
If they're anxious when that other person isn't around because they built that such tight dependency on them, they're not supposed to be able to survive without that abuser.

00:40:50.166 --> 00:40:54.878
Right Like that is the mindset that the abuser puts into their head.

00:40:54.878 --> 00:41:06.081
So if they're anxious about any decision that is a normal decision when the abuser is not there, then that's a red flag.

00:41:06.081 --> 00:41:09.905
I mean, it may be bordering on neon.

00:41:11.268 --> 00:41:20.503
I mean there's a difference of a healthy relationship asking for hey, this is a big purchase, you know, let's talk about it.

00:41:20.503 --> 00:41:23.934
Is it good for us to make this purchase?

00:41:23.934 --> 00:41:30.324
Or if it's something small, are you going to catch hell for it?

00:41:30.324 --> 00:41:37.023
Like stupid stuff, like I stop when you go to a bachelorette party.

00:41:37.023 --> 00:41:45.503
You stop at crazy sex stores and you pick up funny things for bachelorette parties, right, so I have done that.

00:41:45.503 --> 00:41:51.143
There's a couple here in Tampa that I have been to and I feel comfortable going to.

00:41:51.143 --> 00:41:52.206
They're not seedy.

00:41:53.268 --> 00:41:53.650
You're right.

00:41:54.731 --> 00:42:08.784
The highway ones, but these are like some nicer ones that you can go in and like, look around and, you know, get stuff for bachelorette parties or your own thing.

00:42:08.784 --> 00:42:16.481
And so I got like this little lingerie thing and I brought it home and he's like where did you get that?

00:42:16.481 --> 00:42:23.280
I'm like I went to a store and he's like why would you go to a sex store without me?

00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:24.943
Who did you go there with?

00:42:24.943 --> 00:42:26.331
Like.

00:42:26.331 --> 00:42:29.219
And then that it went totally tanked from there.

00:42:29.219 --> 00:42:33.603
Like I thought I was doing something like sexual for our relationship.

00:42:33.603 --> 00:42:45.896
Oh, I was the worst person on the planet because I walked into a sex store and got like this little tiny piece of lingerie for him and I was the devil at that point.

00:42:45.896 --> 00:42:49.262
Doesn't it blow your mind to like think back on some of that now?

00:42:49.262 --> 00:42:51.684
Yes, yeah.

00:42:52.893 --> 00:43:09.885
I always say it's like I watched, like the memory that is in my mind of what I went through is almost like it's a memory from a movie that I watched because, like my person now wouldn't have lasted that long in a relationship like that I wouldn't have.

00:43:09.885 --> 00:43:21.996
But if I had not gone through that, today I may go through a relationship like that because I don't know that I would have been aware of what was happening, because I certainly wasn't aware when I was in it.

00:43:22.356 --> 00:43:22.639
Yeah.

00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:36.023
And let me ask you this question because this is something that I have thought about a lot, Because I just I think you and I are very, very similar on a lot of this stuff.

00:43:36.023 --> 00:43:52.833
Yeah, mindset and stuff Prior to my abusive relationship had been married that failed.

00:43:52.833 --> 00:43:53.494
We went through a divorce.

00:43:53.494 --> 00:43:55.579
Um, I met one guy that told me that I was doing bodybuilding for a couple of years.

00:43:55.579 --> 00:44:01.177
Um, and he got so jealous that he told me to he hopes I burned my skin with the curling iron.

00:44:01.597 --> 00:44:05.195
And I was like F you, buddy, I'm done with you and I was done right.

00:44:05.195 --> 00:44:11.056
Like first bad comment, I was done and he was super charming and definitely a manipulator.

00:44:11.056 --> 00:44:13.239
And then I meet this guy.

00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:15.284
We have so much in common.

00:44:15.284 --> 00:44:16.992
We date for like a month.

00:44:17.213 --> 00:44:36.927
I'm head over heels for this guy, like head over heels, but we didn't have the monogamy, exclusive conversation and I found out he went on some dates and I was just heartbroken and he's like I'm not ready for a relationship but we should have had that before.

00:44:36.927 --> 00:44:43.536
I got my like hopes up Right and so I was still suffering from that because I really, really liked that guy.

00:44:43.536 --> 00:44:46.119
And then I met my abuser.

00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:57.110
So our cycles of you know energy and our psyche and our self-worth and self-belief I don't think it's necessarily self-confidence because I was still.

00:44:57.110 --> 00:45:03.257
I was confident in myself but my self-worth was low.

00:45:03.257 --> 00:45:30.021
My self-esteem was low at that time because of a guy that I really thought we connected and then that ended and then I meet this crazy gorilla, so leading into your abuser situation.

00:45:30.021 --> 00:45:38.907
Did you have any scenarios that led you to accept that behavior in the beginning where you wouldn't have prior?

00:45:49.409 --> 00:45:58.621
Well, it's so funny that you say that, because I remember in college one year there were four women that lived together and we had one male roommate and I was really good friends with him and I remember talking to him I'm like I don't know, everybody's going on dates and stuff and I don't get dates.

00:45:58.621 --> 00:46:02.052
And he said your standards are too high, you need to lower your standards.

00:46:02.052 --> 00:46:09.601
And I remember thinking I will never lower my standards and going forward in different relationships.

00:46:09.601 --> 00:46:18.998
I had one guy tell me you know, you're the kind of girl I should marry, and I was so flattered.

00:46:18.998 --> 00:46:31.356
And then he went on to say because you're not beautiful, you're cute, you wouldn't be bad to wake up to, but you're not beautiful enough to where another man is going to take you away from me.

00:46:31.356 --> 00:46:37.554
And I was like, oh okay, well, I don't want to be in this relationship anymore.

00:46:37.554 --> 00:46:41.304
But I mean that definitely hit.

00:46:41.927 --> 00:46:50.273
And then I had another relationship where the guy told me I need to marry you because when we get divorced you will have to pay me alimony.

00:46:50.273 --> 00:46:57.793
And I mean I was like, okay, you're out and you know it wasn't.

00:46:57.793 --> 00:47:00.541
I wasn't like, oh, okay, well, I guess that would be okay.

00:47:00.601 --> 00:47:04.577
You know it wasn't like my self-worth was trash and I thought that was okay.

00:47:04.577 --> 00:47:05.518
I knew those things.

00:47:05.518 --> 00:47:09.692
Scenarios were not okay, but they were still digs at me.

00:47:09.692 --> 00:47:13.659
And then, you know, then it was like it's same thing.

00:47:13.659 --> 00:47:18.155
This guy comes into my life and I was like, oh my God, he's amazing.

00:47:18.155 --> 00:47:20.318
Everything I like he likes.

00:47:20.318 --> 00:47:27.036
We have the exact same taste in music, same taste in you know, what we like to do.

00:47:27.036 --> 00:47:33.373
It was crazy and I was like this must be what I was, I was waiting for.

00:47:33.373 --> 00:47:38.130
This is why I was dating all those crappy guys, because this guy was coming along.

00:47:39.072 --> 00:47:46.472
Yeah, that, that feeling the white knight right, the guy riding in on the white horse.

00:47:46.472 --> 00:47:49.559
I was listening to a podcast.

00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:51.291
The lady's name is Mariah.

00:47:51.291 --> 00:48:06.954
I've spoken to her on the phone before, but I went and listened to her podcast and she said something so profound and it has stuck with me for a long time, for at least a couple years.

00:48:06.954 --> 00:48:07.956
Now is when I heard it.

00:48:08.456 --> 00:48:39.335
But she states this in such a way of just when you think you found the person to save you, or just when you think you're being saved, you're actually preparing, you're getting prepared to be cooked, and I sat in that for a while and then I cried about it for a while, because, if we think back to the abusive relationship, where has this person been?

00:48:39.335 --> 00:48:41.360
All my life I've been waiting for this.

00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:43.331
This is amazing, this is magical.

00:48:43.331 --> 00:48:47.126
This is you know how come I didn't come across you before.

00:48:47.126 --> 00:48:48.952
I've been waiting for you for so long.

00:48:48.952 --> 00:49:00.297
Like all of those thoughts is like the turkey getting fattened up for Thanksgiving, and I cried about it again and again and again.

00:49:00.297 --> 00:49:08.016
Like it still brings emotions out in me, like we are not built that way.

00:49:08.777 --> 00:49:12.443
And the fact that someone is so identical to us is a danger sign.

00:49:12.443 --> 00:49:24.561
Yeah, of dogs we like.

00:49:24.561 --> 00:49:36.983
I mean none of us should be identical we can have similar things and reactions to things, but if someone is so similar, someone's faking it.

00:49:37.969 --> 00:49:41.661
Right Compatible yes, identical no.

00:49:43.652 --> 00:49:44.974
No, no, no, no.

00:49:44.974 --> 00:49:54.996
And if it is identical and you're like, but, but, but you know all the come out, start documenting.

00:49:54.996 --> 00:50:06.719
If that, if they're agreeing and doing things with you because it's the same thing you like, they're going to start using it against you somehow.

00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:08.621
It's going to be a weapon.

00:50:08.621 --> 00:50:11.793
Yes, of well.

00:50:11.793 --> 00:50:17.063
You said you like to make sure to please me and that pleases you.

00:50:17.063 --> 00:50:24.632
You said you like to go to the gym in the morning and you like to give me a blowjob before we go to the gym in the morning.

00:50:24.632 --> 00:50:32.820
You said and they use it against you in like, all kinds of crazy ways and even twisting your words, and you're like did I say that?

00:50:32.820 --> 00:50:33.422
I?

00:50:33.442 --> 00:50:34.570
don't think I said it that way.

00:50:34.570 --> 00:50:35.733
I didn't mean it that way.

00:50:35.733 --> 00:50:49.791
If I said it that way and you don't even realize what's coming next, like the cook chopped the, chop the head off the turkey and throw it in the oven.

00:50:49.791 --> 00:50:52.717
Like you don't realize that that is right in front of you.

00:50:53.139 --> 00:50:53.579
Well, right.

00:50:53.579 --> 00:51:04.760
And then the even if they're not identifying like we're exactly the same, if you share vulnerabilities, those will come back to be used against you and it won't be at first.

00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:18.023
So if you say, oh, I don't feel pretty, you know, for me, like this guy said, he wanted to marry me because I'm not pretty, not pretty enough to be a threat of leaving him, and then you know the response is oh, my God, you're beautiful.

00:51:18.023 --> 00:51:18.811
What the heck?

00:51:18.811 --> 00:51:20.251
You know he's crazy.

00:51:20.251 --> 00:51:25.257
Whatever, I think you're the most beautiful thing that's ever I've ever met, whatever.

00:51:25.257 --> 00:51:34.086
And but later, when it comes to that whole devaluing phase, it's well, I mean, she's hot, you're not.

00:51:34.086 --> 00:51:39.943
And then there's the whole comparison of all these things that you shared, that once were.

00:51:39.943 --> 00:51:46.860
You know they build you up, they build up your self-esteem, just to rip that rug out from under you.

00:51:47.610 --> 00:51:49.835
Yeah, I got my failed marriage.

00:51:49.835 --> 00:51:52.001
I've got, you know, all of that stuff.

00:51:52.001 --> 00:51:55.416
No wonder, no wonder your marriage couldn't last.

00:51:55.416 --> 00:51:59.293
No wonder you're you know you can't have, you're not having children.

00:51:59.293 --> 00:52:01.177
I mean, who wants to be married to you?

00:52:01.177 --> 00:52:05.440
Like all of ugh, just terrible, it's terrible.

00:52:06.891 --> 00:52:07.152
It is.

00:52:07.152 --> 00:52:10.380
So let's talk about your nonprofit more too.

00:52:10.969 --> 00:52:17.141
Yeah, so the I knew I wanted to help people and I didn't know where to start.

00:52:17.141 --> 00:52:21.773
So, just like with anything, there's never going to be a perfect time.

00:52:21.773 --> 00:52:23.715
So just start.

00:52:23.715 --> 00:52:40.125
You start where you can start, and so for me, because my abuser was so big and so like double my size, like if he had put his hands on me more than he did, I now could get out of it.

00:52:40.125 --> 00:52:52.523
So I'm getting trained in self-defense the natural avenue of how helpless I felt.

00:52:53.463 --> 00:52:59.619
I wanted to be able to give women the power of feeling like Wonder Woman, like leaving going.

00:52:59.619 --> 00:53:01.844
Yeah, like I learned something.

00:53:01.844 --> 00:53:03.313
I feel empowered about it.

00:53:03.313 --> 00:53:25.679
Whether it's a story they heard, whether it is a move they learned, whether it is a piece of knowledge from law enforcement so they're not scared to call 911, whether it's the mental aspect of putting your head in the right place to then put the safety plan together.

00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:32.726
I wanted it to be a, a place where you can get all of those things.

00:53:32.726 --> 00:53:40.556
So you didn't have to search on the internet of calling 911 and ordering pizza was a thing you didn't have to call, uh.

00:53:40.556 --> 00:53:44.952
Or you didn't have to search on the internet to see if I call the cops, who gets arrested?

00:53:44.952 --> 00:53:47.036
Um, you didn't have to.

00:53:47.036 --> 00:53:51.503
You know, search on the internet if it's your husband or your boyfriend is at rape.

00:53:52.632 --> 00:54:06.722
Having these open discussions with people and getting their answers heard, or getting their questions heard and answers given it just brings power right.

00:54:06.722 --> 00:54:09.458
This, for sure, is knowledge is power.

00:54:09.458 --> 00:54:15.161
But then you have to turn it into action and not everyone is ready for that action.

00:54:15.161 --> 00:54:23.920
But I think, like what I did is I tried to think what the next six months would look like.

00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:29.670
That's too scary, Focus on leaving and what the next 48 hours looks like.

00:54:29.670 --> 00:54:38.731
Right, Like, shorten that time frame, make it in a more of a bite-sized piece of what do I need to gather?

00:54:38.731 --> 00:54:49.592
Who do I need to tell, Even if it's, if I call you and I say, Ingrid, and it should only just be one person, a trusted person, not one of their friends or family members.

00:54:50.614 --> 00:54:58.856
Ingrid, if I ever say the word pineapple and it's out of context and really weird that means I need you to come pick me up.

00:54:58.856 --> 00:55:11.755
If I say the word rutabaga some like random thing that I would never say if I say that word, I need you to call 911 and give them my address.

00:55:11.755 --> 00:55:21.686
So, like having a trusted person, give a keyword or keywords where an action can take place in case it's needed, right?

00:55:21.686 --> 00:55:25.936
Because when you're preparing to leave, danger escalates dramatically.

00:55:25.936 --> 00:55:28.882
Mine got in my face, he punched my chest.

00:55:28.882 --> 00:55:33.277
He spit in my face All of those very demeaning like.

00:55:33.277 --> 00:55:36.063
I would not even spit on my worst enemy's face.

00:55:36.063 --> 00:55:37.976
It's disgusting.

00:55:37.976 --> 00:55:50.983
You're lower than dirt if you're doing that and making sure that that person understands what is happening and what help you need.

00:55:52.329 --> 00:56:00.144
Yeah, and I really want to emphasize that part of when you're leaving, your danger really escalates and you'll even notice that.

00:56:00.144 --> 00:56:08.443
You'll know that because as you start to recognize more that you're being abused, you do start to get a little bit of your empowerment.

00:56:08.443 --> 00:56:11.157
It's almost like you hit the bottom and there's nowhere to go but up.

00:56:11.157 --> 00:56:13.751
But your abuser also recognizes it.

00:56:13.751 --> 00:56:16.478
You may not even be like say anything different.

00:56:16.820 --> 00:56:17.742
Your shift of energy.

00:56:17.949 --> 00:56:33.489
But, yes, your shift of energy, so that abuse is going to come more frequently, it's going to be more horrific, the good times are going to get shorter and shorter, but then, once they start to realize that they are actually losing control, it's all systems go.

00:56:33.489 --> 00:56:36.577
They will stop at nothing to keep that power over you.

00:56:36.577 --> 00:56:45.320
So it is so incredibly dangerous, and if you can avoid telling them that you're leaving, do things like sneaking out slowly, over time.

00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:47.311
That's what you have to do to keep yourself safe.

00:56:47.311 --> 00:56:51.014
And so how do people get in touch with you?

00:56:51.014 --> 00:56:54.117
How do they find your book, how do they find your nonprofit?

00:56:54.677 --> 00:56:57.521
So the easiest way, I mean you can go onto Amazon.

00:56:57.521 --> 00:57:05.789
But on my website, tiffanynewtoncom, I have all the links to like Books, a Million Walmart Amazon Like.

00:57:05.789 --> 00:57:06.751
If you click on that logo it takes you to there.

00:57:06.751 --> 00:57:12.103
So, wherever you buy, some people don't want to use Amazon, Some people only, you know, some people are just brand specific.

00:57:12.103 --> 00:57:14.735
So you can click on that and it takes you to the order page.

00:57:14.735 --> 00:57:24.197
My nonprofit is also listed on there because the proceeds from the book do go to the nonprofit and I am.

00:57:25.659 --> 00:57:41.782
I have a safety plan that I have put together I actually spent a lot of time on it where it is 24 red flags to keep out for, to keep an eye on three financial moves you can make to keep yourself financially safe.

00:57:41.782 --> 00:57:47.452
It's like three or four pages to print out and answer questions like what we were talking about.

00:57:47.452 --> 00:57:48.728
What's the line in the sand?

00:57:48.728 --> 00:57:51.815
If they say this, what can you respond to?

00:57:51.815 --> 00:57:59.735
To hold your power, so you can actually write your own mental plan with it and then have a private call.

00:57:59.735 --> 00:58:06.074
I have a 10-minute video on there just telling them a little bit about my story too, so I have that on there.

00:58:06.074 --> 00:58:07.351
It's called the Empowered Exit.

00:58:07.351 --> 00:58:14.715
So, yeah, there's all kinds of ways to get in touch with me, and herorg is the um.

00:58:14.715 --> 00:58:16.097
It's the nonprofit.

00:58:16.757 --> 00:58:19.400
Okay, and then do you think that we missed anything?

00:58:20.101 --> 00:58:20.920
I don't think so.

00:58:21.422 --> 00:58:21.722
Okay.

00:58:22.501 --> 00:58:28.286
And well, one of the big the obstacles, animal children, right?

00:58:28.286 --> 00:58:41.550
Yes, there are.

00:58:41.550 --> 00:58:42.751
That's one of the things on my nonprofit site.

00:58:42.751 --> 00:58:48.860
For resources, is I made sure to list the local shelters that have onsite or offsite pet facilities, Because I mean, I don't have any kids but I have dogs so that could be a.

00:58:49.081 --> 00:59:02.284
I mean, I don't have dogs that are banned from hotels, but you know, if someone has, like a pit bull or a shepherd or a Doberman, they may not be allowed to be in a hotel.

00:59:02.284 --> 00:59:06.434
So you do have to take an extra step of planning and you know what can you get together.

00:59:06.434 --> 00:59:07.516
Um, and you know what can you get together.

00:59:07.516 --> 00:59:19.795
Like in my, in my stuff for the, the um storage unit, I dog food, their medication, like I didn't remove any of that stuff from the cabinets.

00:59:19.795 --> 00:59:20.637
I already had it off to the side.

00:59:20.637 --> 00:59:24.753
Um, so if he were to look into anything it, he wouldn't see anything missing.

00:59:26.237 --> 00:59:41.719
And pets is such a big thing and I know it's easy for somebody who has not been in a domestic violence situation to think just leave the dog and go, but that has literally kept somebody in that situation.

00:59:41.719 --> 00:59:45.992
I mean things you mentioned at the beginning, important items.

00:59:45.992 --> 00:59:47.317
I mean you didn't have a choice.

00:59:47.317 --> 00:59:57.003
He was donating them, but people have stayed because if I leave this table that's been in my family for generations we'll get destroyed.

00:59:57.003 --> 00:59:59.157
I know he or she is going to destroy that.

00:59:59.157 --> 01:00:12.719
So there are things like that that are extremely important to victims and it should never be downplayed as something that's not important or not something that you can just walk away and leave behind.

01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:29.704
So, in closing, I believe every story, every voice carries some sort of a strength, and is there anything specific that you would want to leave with listeners as the strength of the message to take home today?

01:00:31.331 --> 01:00:39.449
I probably the biggest thing is you are loved, no matter who you are or your background.

01:00:39.449 --> 01:00:48.092
You are loved just as God put you on this planet and never, ever think that you're less because you're not.

01:00:48.092 --> 01:01:02.432
God put you on this earth as perfect, so believe in yourself and, wherever you are, if you're in this situation, reach out for help.

01:01:02.432 --> 01:01:06.862
Get help to get out so you can live the life that you were supposed to live.

01:01:06.862 --> 01:01:10.094
Help to get out so you can live the life that you were supposed to live.

01:01:10.094 --> 01:01:13.862
You are not ever supposed to be in a position where you feel less than who you really are.

01:01:15.650 --> 01:01:16.373
Thank you, tiffany.

01:01:16.373 --> 01:01:17.838
That was great.

01:01:17.838 --> 01:01:20.206
I appreciate your time coming on.

01:01:20.206 --> 01:01:21.369
I loved our conversation.

01:01:21.369 --> 01:01:26.862
I'm sure we're going to have more conversations after this, okay, so thank you again.

01:01:27.670 --> 01:01:28.635
Absolutely, thank you.

01:01:29.911 --> 01:01:34.942
Thank you again, tiffany, for joining me today, and thank you, warriors, for listening.

01:01:34.942 --> 01:01:40.902
I've included the links Tiffany was referring to, as well as her one in three profile in the show notes.

01:01:40.902 --> 01:01:48.244
I will be back next week with our first episode into the Domestic Violence Awareness Month series.

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Until then, stay strong and wherever you are in your journey, always remember you are not alone.

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