Aug. 5, 2025
80-When Survivors Lead: The Messy, Beautiful Work of Rescue With Ali Allred
What happens when a survivor decides that no one else should face the same isolation and roadblocks she encountered? Ali Allred joins 1 in 3 for a second powerful conversation to reveal how she's building a lifeline for those trapped in domestic violence and human trafficking situations.
After escaping her own abusive relationship, Ali began sharing her story online. The response was overwhelming—survivors reaching out from everywhere, desperate for help. "I just got pissed," she says. "This is not happening on my watch." That determination birthed Survivors to Safety, a crisis response organization now spanning the US and Canada.
Unlike traditional hotlines, Ali's team doesn't just provide a list of resources and wish callers good luck. They become advocates and liaisons, walking alongside survivors through their entire journey. They've helped women pack emergency bags while abusers sleep, arranged transportation to shelters, and supported them through rebuilding their lives. "We may not be certified therapists," Ali explains, "but we can tell you how to pack a bag. We can tell you where to store your keys if he tries to take them from you."
This survivor-led approach addresses a critical gap in services. When survivors exhaust all available resources—when shelters are full or legal options fail—Survivors to Safety steps in with practical solutions born from lived experience. As federal grants diminish and resources dwindle, Ali's response was characteristic: "If there aren't these resources, I'm going to f---ing make them."
Beyond direct intervention, Ali co-hosts the Pain to Power podcast, creating another platform for survivors to reclaim their voices. The name reflects her philosophy: "Abusers want to take your power away. They want to dim your light because that makes you manageable. You have to get up, get angry, get your light back."
Ready to support a survivor or need help yourself? Find Pain to Power on Spotify and connect with Survivors to Safety on Instagram, Facebook, or their website. Follow Ali's personal journey @tappedASF on Instagram and TikTok
Ali's links:
https://www.1in3podcast.com/guests/ali-allred/
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Cover art by Laura Swift Dahlke
Music by Tim Crowe
00:00 - Welcome Back with Allie Allred
09:05 - Birth of Survivors to Safety
18:28 - Crisis Response and Survivor Support
28:38 - Navigating Administrative Challenges
36:11 - Pain to Power Podcast
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Hi Warriors, welcome to One in Three.
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I'm your host, ingrid.
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Last week we heard from Allie Allred in which she detailed the incredible adversity that she faced and overcame around every corner throughout her life.
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She escaped, she survived and she's currently thriving.
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And she's joining us again today so she can share with us all the incredible advocacy work that she is doing through her nonprofit Survivors to Safety.
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She also discusses what she's accomplishing with her podcast, pain to Power.
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Here is Allie.
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Hi Allie, thank you so much for coming back.
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I'm so excited to be here.
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I'm so excited, I'm really excited for this episode.
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So last week you talked about your incredible story of everything that you've been through in life and obviously you survived.
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You're thriving now.
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And then you decided to take it a step further because, recognizing everything you had been through and all the hurdles and hoops and roadblocks that you met along the way, you decided you want to make sure nobody else has that.
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Yeah, yeah, I mean, there was a time that I felt so alone.
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There was a time that I literally had exacerbated every single resource that I had thought and that was provided for me and I thought there was no way out, and let alone I felt like there was no one that could relate to what I went through.
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And so I started posting relatable content on social media.
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I basically just was telling my story and I saw so many people just engaging with my content and so many people relating to what I went through.
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I just got pissed, you know.
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I got infuriated.
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I was like, you know, this is not happening on my watch, if anything, you know I'm going to be a listening ear for these people and give them my advice of what I went through.
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So I created a Facebook, I created social media accounts and I started this online almost call center for people.
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And you know, throughout the journey, what I would do is if someone posted or engaged with one of my content, I'd reach out to them and see if they were safe, see if they needed any resources, any support, and I was just looking it up on my own or making calls, people on my own, to find these resources.
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And through doing this I met, you know, my team members who saw what I was doing and saw what I was trying to do.
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And then I built a team over the US and Canada that came on board with what I was doing and we created a whole, you know, organization off of it.
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So my team has really, you know, become very, very solid.
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You know, I have Meg who is our VP, and we have Cassie who is our COO.
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You know we have Tammy who is really hands-on with the volunteers and kind of oversees that.
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We have a plethora of people involved in Survivors to Safety.
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Those are just some of the key ones that a lot of women speak to frequently.
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They have really been such a rock in what I do.
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Cassie, meg and I are on the crisis team, so essentially we all post relatable content.
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Anyone who engages with us we reach out to, we see if they're okay, we see if they need resources and then we seek them for them and we become the advocate and the liaison between the survivor and the resource.
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We ourselves are not providing therapy or legal services or anything of the sort at Survivors to Safety, which I decided to call it Survivors to Safety, because we were seeking survivors and bringing them to safety.
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Right, that was the whole goal is finding survivors and bringing them to safety and getting them help reintegrating back into society.
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But you know, we, when we first started this, were absolutely flooded with women.
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Flooded with women.
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You know, meg had spent one time with one woman like typing up eight pages of fucking resources for her.
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You know, and unfortunately we can't help everyone and we don't promise that we're going to help everyone, but we show up every single time.
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You know we have women who put us down as their emergency contacts and you know typically how this works is, if we find a woman who is unsafe, we talk to the team, we put together resources, we put together a safety plan for this woman.
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So we have helped women who have, you know, packed a safety bag, you know, while their abuser is asleep, and throw it over the balcony, and you know, uber to a Wendy's and hide in a Wendy's until you know a shelter could come pick them up.
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And then we help, you know, get them transitioned back into jobs and apartments, and all under survivor-led leadership.
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And we, like I said, we are not the ones providing these services, but we're the ones walking alongside and getting them the resources that they need and then supporting them through the entirety of their journey.
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You know we have many, many women that I didn't mention that help support these survivors, bringing in a bunch of volunteers and, that being said, so we were flooded, like I said, and we actually decided recently, you know, through an unfortunate event, we learned that we needed to take a little step back and we needed to do it right.
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Right, we needed to put together all the protocols, all the consent forms, you know, all the training we needed, the volunteers to do background checks, because if we're going to do this, we're going to do it right and we're going to make sure that we have the training for, you know, our survivors, because we can walk alongside you and you know we can find all these resources for you.
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But we want to do more.
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We want to help with trauma-informed training.
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Megan actually just got a certification that is incredible in mental health that she can start, you know, supporting women through, and all of us are going to go through extensive training to not only be a resource for survivors to help them navigate through tricky times, but we're also going to be advocates for them.
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You know we're doing that already we're making these calls to detectives and PD and federal agencies and you know whoever needs to get involved.
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You know, and I'm very lucky that I have those connections through what I went through but we want to be the trained advocates and provide the top tier training and resources that we possibly can, and by doing that, that means that we are getting the training and all the protocols in place necessary.
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We don't turn away survivors.
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We're just kind of taking a step back on the content we're posting, because that's where we get most of our women.
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We're not doing as much promotional content, but we still get women every day.
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You know, unfortunately there's such a big need for this out there there's very few people doing what we're doing.
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We've made ourselves a crisis hotline.
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You know.
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The only person trying to do what we're doing is the National Human Trafficking Hotline and they're not providing community to, you know, and the Domestic Violence Hotline.
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They're not providing community to these people like we are.
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I mean, they're doing similar things to what we're doing.
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They're getting the resources.
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They're, you know, listening and advocating and they're providing them, you know, all the things they need to get in the right direction, but we support them through the entirety of their journey.
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Because assume that, you know, one of the resources falls through the cracks, or they call all the shelters that were provided, you know, provided by the domestic violence hotline, and there was nothing available, then what?
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Who do you turn to?
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And that's where you turn to us.
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One thing I liked is that you said how alone you felt through your journey, and what your nonprofit is doing now is making sure that these individuals never are alone.
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Like you said, you're following them through the entirety of the process.
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One thing I wanted to clarify is the setback that you had had nothing to do with a victim or a survivor.
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It was more administrative.
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It was administrative.
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Unfortunately, we had a COO that was not in it for the right reasons.
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Oo that was not in it for the right reasons and we learned that pretty quickly and we don't tolerate that.
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You know, obviously the people who are going to be on our team are going to be in it with pure intent.
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You know it was a money thing and there wasn't even money involved.
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We don't make a profit off of survivors.
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We don't even ask a cent.
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So the fact that there was even money being talked about and brought up for anything other than the exiting resources was a big red flag for us, and you know, we ourselves want to get paid as well too, obviously.
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I mean, we're looking for funding not only for exiting resources but to do this full time.
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You know I exited the life and I'm working a full-time job, a nine to five but there's such a need out there for us to be able to do this full-time so that really was the only money we were looking for and there was a whole dispute over that.
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So we ended up letting that COO go and bring on Cassie, who's been absolutely fantastic, and she's the one who really said look, we need to restructure this, because the old COO was, you know, slandering me, saying I was embezzling, saying that I was a dictator, saying you know all this stuff and, luckily, you know, even put you know all my survivors in a group chat and was, you know, slandering me.
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And we just realized that you know, through that mistake, that we really need to do it right.
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We really need to make sure.
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Only, you know, certain people have access to survivors' information.
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Luckily, you know, we weren't to a point where that would have affected us and it didn't affect any of our survivors.
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You know, some obviously got triggered that I talked to, but no one was swayed by what we were doing because we've been doing it right and we've been doing it the pure intention.
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So it was just someone who was trying to take us out.
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That really made us realize that we do need to do it right.
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So it had nothing to do with the survivor.
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All the survivors that you know were affected by this are great and they are absolutely comfortable and, you know, happy for the things that we have done for them and they weren't, you know, faltered in any way by, you know, that hiccup.
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But survivors' information number one and you know, the survivors' peace number two is so important to us.
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They don't need any extra drama.
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They don't need any extra, you know, worry that you know their information is going to get somewhere or to someone that's going to go to the wrong thing.
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The only people that's going to have access to that information is me, meg Cassie and whatever advocate is assigned to a survivor, and they are only going to get limited information.
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We utilize, you know, many different platforms.
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You know, and we're starting to use even pretty soon Signal, which Homeland Security uses to message.
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It's a very secure messaging system.
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You know where messages are deleted and it's very hard to take screenshots.
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You know everything is going to be very secure and safe.
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We have a secure Teams channel to where the volunteers you know will post.
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Women in Colorado Springs with two children need shelter you know, not giving survivor information and these volunteers will go and they'll post resources on the Teams channel for us to call and for us to help these women.
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So everyone's really on board.
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But we're very, very careful now.
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You know not that we weren't being careful.
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We just didn't expect you know what had happened to happen, and so we're very grateful for that, because now it has just shown us really how to navigate through not only helping survivors but the business world, right, because we never even started this to make a profit.
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We never even started this to have it blow up.
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The way that it is blown up, you know, I had no idea.
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I had no idea when I started Survivors to Safety that it would turn into what it has turned into, and I'm so grateful for that.
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But also it makes me so sad because it's like there is such a need out there for people to be doing what we're doing and unfortunately, you know, federal grants have been cut, resources have been cut.
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There's typically only, you know, five to six police officers in a department.
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You know, not everyone has HSI task force agents in their department.
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You know, not everyone has all the resources that you know they used to.
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So I myself got angry.
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I was like, if there aren't these resources, I'm going to fucking make them.
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You know, and that's where, you know, the funding for exiting resources came in and that's when the money aspect came in.
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We're like we're going to need to make some money for these survivors.
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They need diapers, they need food, they need bras, they need Ubers to the hospital, and you know a lot of what we've been doing right now, which we have been providing those exiting resources have either been through donations that we ask on social media to post, or it comes out of mere donations Meg or Cassie's pocket.
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You know what I mean, and so we've been.
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You know, ubering girls to the hospital, ubering, bringing them food.
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But we're a lot smarter now, right, because we've been doing this, we don't give survivors money directly because that, you know, oftentimes doesn't go to where it's supposed to go, unfortunately.
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If they're hungry, we'll Uber food to them directly.
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If they need a ride to the hospital, we'll call the Uber.
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So we are providing these exiting resources, but I don't want people to get confused Survivors to Safety is not a bank.
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You know, eventually we're going to be able to help with car payments and phone bills and putting a first last security down to start a new life.
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But again, we're not a bank.
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We are only here to help people who are ready for a change.
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We will support you through the entirety of your journey, even if you're not ready, but we can't give you the resources unless you want them.
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It took me a million times to get out of my domestic, even if people would have handed me the resources on a silver platter, I probably wouldn't have used them because of the Stockholm syndrome.
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I had with my ex, the love that I thought I had.
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You know how scared I was.
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I was actually just talking to a friend yesterday that knew me during my domestic and she sobbed to me because she didn't realize what had happened to me after I had moved away from Utah until she had seen everything on TikTok and she thought it was her fault.
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She was like if I would have called the cops, that would have never happened to you.
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You know he was a terrifying man and I'm like you don't need to tell me that.
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That's why I never called the cops, that's why I never used those resources and it's not up to you to fix that.
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But you know we.
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That being said, we are mandatory reporters at Survivors to Safety.
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So if we feel a survivor is unsafe, if a child is unsafe, you know, if anything is happening, I mean we are mandatory reporters and we're going to get you safe but at the same time we also aren't going to jeopardize your mental safety.
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If police, if you don't like we had a survivor that didn't want to get, you know, police involved and we went around that you know.
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We were able to get her resources and let her know that's an option if you ever do need it.
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But we meet people exactly where they're at.
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We don't care if you're high, we don't care if you're drunk, we don't care if you're using, we don't care if you're actively stripping, we don't care what you're doing, as long as you're provided with the resources and educated and supported enough to know that, uh, you know these kinds of predators are out there.
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You know these kinds of abusers are out there, these kinds of manipulators are out there.
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And, um, you know, oftentimes, even if you would leave a domestic, you're more susceptible to trauma, therefore, after.
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So, not only are we going to get you safe, we're going to make sure you stay safe, because oftentimes we confuse abuse for love.
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We repeat the same cycles time and time again, and that's because oftentimes we feel so alone.
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And then we seek validation in people that remind us of those who once validated us before and try to fill that void of what had validated us before, and then we repeat the same things.
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And if you don't have people in your corner really keeping you accountable or reminding you how bad it used to be, you know we'll often romanticize the situation and we'll end up going back to our abuser, often romanticize the situation and we'll end up going back to our abuser.
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So we really, you know, not only are we helping survivors to safety, we are causing prevention, we are preventing.
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You know, 85% of human trafficking survivors and only 1% get out were sexually abused as a child and 70% were in domestics prior.
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So not only is domestic violence, you know, altering those statistics, altering homicide statistics, but it's also altering human trafficking statistics, because if we can reduce that domestic violence, we can absolutely reduce human trafficking and we can get more people out.
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I can talk forever.
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on this I can tell.
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Right, no.
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So there were a few things that I thought of while you were talking.
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So one is it's incredible that you know where these women have been, and I think that when you mentioned that if somebody handed you resources on a silver platter, you probably wouldn't take it, I think it helps that you are somebody that these women know, that you can relate to where they are, and I think that opens their minds to a degree.
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You know they're still going to do what they want to do, but it's not just somebody who has all these degrees which is not a bad thing either and actually is necessary as well but somebody who has just learned about this through books and hasn't learned they haven't walked that path.
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So I think that the fact that you're bringing experience definitely gives that relatable factor to where they may be more open to listening and accepting the resources.
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Another thing I wanted to say is unfortunately, when you have a population like this that's very vulnerable, you are going to get people who try to take advantage of them, and I'm so glad you guys are stepping back and making sure that you're crossing all the T's, dotting all the I's, to make sure that you have all the proper vetted, educated resources for these people.
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So I was going to ask, as far as networking so you're international, because it's the United States and Canada how do you get, how do you find the resources?
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Or is it you have somebody who, for instance, calls and says I'm in New Mexico?
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Do you then try to find the resources or are you keeping a log of these resources?
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Well, ultimately we want to have a full log.
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There's just so many resources that people don't know how to find that.
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I know how to find because I had to be very scrappy, you know in my own life, and what I was looking for, you know.
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Because for human trafficking survivors there aren't a lot of resources.
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You have to utilize a lot of domestic violence.
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You know resources, and then there are only so many domestic violence resources.
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So then you have to find the community resources, and there are only so many community resources.
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Then you have to find the inner community resources.
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You know what I mean.
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So not everyone knows how to look for that Um and uh, you know.
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So we don't have a running log yet.
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Eventually we're going to make a spreadsheet so we can say hey, you know, they're in New Mexico, right, we can just pull it up and see all.
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And we have some of those already pre-established.
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But we haven't necessarily helped someone in every single state.
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We're pretty close, but you know, we oftentimes, if we get a survivor and this is how we've done it for a long time and, like I said, we're restructuring a little bit, but this is what typically would happen Say, I got a survivor in New Mexico.
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Right, you know, I would utilize my resources, number one that I could think of mentally whether that be LinkedIn, facebook, instagram, tiktok I would reach out to anyone that has any sort of connection to that area and see if they knew of any resources.
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Then I would, you know, utilize the knowledge that you know I had and look up those resources.
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I would share the survivors not information, but general story with the team, whether that be on Teams or whether we do a phone call and we say, hey, this is what's going on with a survivor, we're going to need to look for X, y, z, and we usually do a little needs assessment with them.
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So when we get them on the phone, we see, you know, do they need detox?
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Do they need to go to the psych ward?
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Do they need to go to the psych ward?
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Do they need to go to the police station?
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Do they need to get checked out for their wounds and injuries?
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You know, do they need to go to a safe house rather than a shelter?
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We do an assessment with them and decide what's going to be the best and appropriate fit for them and then we just go after it.
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You know, we'll post in Teams.
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Hey, we have a survivor with.
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You know X amount of kids that need shelter tonight that has, you know, no food stamps and no car, no cell phone.
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And all of a sudden, you know the people in that channel that have been secured enough and screened enough to view even that information, which isn't giving out any survivor information.
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They go on and they do all the research and we let them know They'll go in, they'll do all the research, they'll look up and then our crisis team starts making calls and then our crisis team will place the survivor.
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So that's typically how that works.
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Okay, so intake process is typically they've been finding you on social media and then they reach out to you and then you start doing the assessment of what their needs are and then you find those specific resources.
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Yep, and then we support them through the entirety of their journey, because not all the resources are going to get them what they want Unfortunately not all the resources are going to get them what they want.
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Unfortunately, Not all the resources are going to help them in the way that they need, and so sometimes we have to think of other resources and other solutions that aren't even out there.
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We have to brainstorm and put our brains together.
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You know, I always use this example because not only is it something that I was really proud of that we were able to pull together, but also it is a sad example of how survivors have really been abused to where they can't trust anyone.
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We had a human trafficking survivor reach out to us.
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Um, and this is before we had all the protocols and everything in place.
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So we just she reached out to us.
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I immediately started, dove in and started helping her.
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Uh, she was actively in human trafficking.
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Um, she was unsafe.
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She's texting off a text now number.
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She tried to involve PD.
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It didn't work.
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Um, she didn't want to involve law enforcement.
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There was just a whole thing.
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She didn't have any documentation.
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So with that we were able to find her.
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You know, safety.
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That day we were able to get her a plan to get her Ubered to a safe location, picked up by a safe house, stay there for 30 days, get a private plane with a private pilot to take her across, you know, anywhere in the United States to a safe house after that, with no documentation, and she could have lived there two years, rent free, um, and then gone into transitional housing.
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And she ghosted me because it sounded too good to be true.
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And like we, me, because it sounded too good to be true.
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And like we, we are able to do really cool things, Um, and we are able to pull really really you know big strings, Um.
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But we can only help so much, and that's the heartbreaking part.
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Absolutely I, and I.
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I get that too good to be true.
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You know, hearing all that, okay, you're, you're going to put me on a plane and I'm going to go where, and how do I know that's really where I'm going.
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I can understand that, especially when you've been living this life of just being taken advantage of and manipulated the entire time.
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Yeah, and that private plane would have been through HSI, homeland Security, so she would have been as protected as you know possible.
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And like I don't know every HSI and FBI agent under the sun, you know, the only resources that I know in federal agencies are resources that have helped me.
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But, that being said, I know how to navigate.
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You know making a tip or talking to the right agent or which department has you know which detective, and you know I do all that kind of research and so a lot of like what you said.
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I didn't go to school for this, just like I'm in sales, you know, in my career, right, you know I've been in sales many years.
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I'm not working really in sales anymore, but like I didn't go to school to be a sales rep, right, it was something that I just had lived experience in becoming a people, person and talking and communicating to make me a professional at what I did.
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You know I don't necessarily think people need to get a master's degree in sales and marketing.
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You know what I mean, because it's a personality thing and it's, you know, a lot of lived experience.
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It's the same with what we're doing and a little different because we do have the qualifications, maybe not the certificates.
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Some of us on our team, like Meg, do gritty survival tactics that are so important, and everything that you know is really, really necessary.
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We may not be a certified therapist, but we can tell you how to pack a bag.
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We can tell you where to store your keys If he tries to take it from you.
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We can tell you you know when to react to something he says, versus when to pick and choose your bed.
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Like.
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We can create a safety plan because we've lived it.
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We can help you get out and stay out because we've lived it Any of the and we can also direct you to the places that will get you the support that we necessarily can't provide.
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Absolutely incredible.
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And on top of all of that, you also have a podcast yes, yes, uh, we, on top of all that, we have a podcast.
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It was actually meg's idea.
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Meg, my vp.
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She's like I've always wanted to do a podcast and I was like, bet, we're gonna do it, we're gonna create a safe space for survivors to come on and share their stories and, like I said, that that's all her idea.
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